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Sunday, November 16, 2014

UPDATE: MSNBC's Chris Hayes Blows KKK Interview; ANONYMOUS Steps-up With Real Purpose: #Hoodsoff





Any MSNBC viewer has to appreciate Chris Hayes's efforts to tackle the tough interview. Booking intriguing and "un-network" friendly guest is one thing, accomplishing the "good" progressive interview is yet another. Hayes has again dropped the ball when the perfect opportunity to dig deep and hard-hitting interview was within reach. Hayes interviewed an alleged KKK leader from the St Louis area and dropped the interview ball as if it was covered in molasses.

This link clicks to a piece I wrote the day of the interview.

Hayes's politeness and gentlemanly style manifest in another historic example of a guest over-talking the host while neutralizing the perfect interview opportunity. In March of this year, Hayes stepped into a hot zone with an official from the Koch brothers Americans For Prosperity. The guest literally took over the segment and performed a classic Gish Gallop tsunami on the "polite" host.
The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truthslies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. 
Watch as Jennifer Stefano exhibited typical Right-wing dogma and Jerry Springer Show like yelling. Hayes sat and listened while feebly attempting to back-down the yelling demagogue. He eventually simply sat back and allowed the guest to runt he segment to commercial. Stefano's performance was base don strategy and in the eyes of people who support the Koch brothers, a political success. 

The segment is six minutes plus, and one needs to only view the final two minutes.

http://youtu.be/cHXTzlxg6d8



Hayes came back the next day with comments indicating he does not invite
guests to his show for outright confrontation and he relished the opportunity to "learn" from his guest. Well, I posit he did not learn from the Stefano's flogging as he continues, the hope of civil interaction with people who are literally uncivil.

On Wednesday of this week, Hayes book an alleged "Ferguson KKK" leader. While the guest exhibited intellect indicative of a member of the KKK, he did not pull a Jerry Springer performance and should have been corralled for the opportunity to facilitate a good interview. Yet. Hayes again allowed a guest to over-talk and spew inane talk that was stated (by the guest) to have a basis in internet chatter. 

If you recall the KKK leader interview (re linked here), Hayes's should lead his producers to avoid guest the host cannot effectively interview. Hayes is the perfect model of why some call MSNBC the "opinion" network.  A network with little value to some progressives as it appeals to an audience that obviously relishes soaking up comments from progressive guests who are often overbooked or repeat booked to the point of knowing word for word how they will respond to questions. Non-progressive hosts (ie., Todd, Mitchell, Scarborough) perform well for conservative viewers who tune-in to MSNBC. 

I commented above about Hayes's producers avoiding certain guests. The point is particularly relevant when you consider Hayes never actually interviews guest. He more frequently poses questions and sits chopping at the bit to partake in cocktail party like dialog.  He reminds me of the guy who always shows-up at the cocktail party with the sole mission of cornering a person (or people) for incessant and unending conversation. More often than not the serial conversationalist prefers one way dialog (from his mouth to the ears of his audience). Such people will even follow the disinterested conservation victim to the restroom to continue the talk. If one is successful at breaking away from the over-talker, he will quickly find another victim (listener). The "serial" conversationalist does not make for a competent television interviewer. 

After the KKK interview a few online media and social media came alive regarding Hayes "polite" interview. Crooks And Liars reported as such: "Chris Hayes Politely Interviews KKK Imperial Wizard Frank Arcona."

Mediate and The Wrap have reported on Hayes's response to concerns about the "polite" interview.  As with the Stefano interview, Hayes fiends a higher-order of seeking information for what he seemed to imply as fair reporting. The Wrap reported on a TVNewser piece in which Hayes defended the decision to book the KKK leader. 
Even with much social media brushback, Hayes wouldn't do anything differently, telling TVNewser: 
I still think it was the right call, in fact I may even feel that *more* strongly than I did last night. That said, I 100 percent understand why some people don't see it that way. We debated and wrestled with whether or not to do it and weighed the pros and cons and ultimately decided there was real news/journalistic value in putting him on. I've seen some people say we shouldn't have “given him a platform.” But I don't view that kind of interview as “giving him a platform.” There are different kinds of interviews we do on the show. One kind of interview is a reportorial interview with people who are principles in a news story, which is what that interview last night was. That's as opposed to interviews we do where we ask someone to comment on or weigh in on a news story. In those cases, I think you *do* inevitably invest the commentator with some authority or legitimacy, even if you don't agree with him. And clearly we would never ever have a Grand Wizard of the KKK onto the show to play *that* role.
Hayes smothers the TVNewser viewers in nothing more than a well crafted sophism. He sat through the interview like a high school journalism stud net being over-talked and chastised by a person who probably accepted the interview to spew the very garbage Hayes allowed. The KKK leader spoke of receiving "hundreds of calls" based on information from right-wing social media. He also stated receiving information from local police who were friends with his Klan members. A news item in an of itself, especially with the proliferation of KKK employed by police across the South.

Hayes did such a poor job of probing the police connection, it was truly embarrassing for this viewer who formerly supported MSNBC as credible progressive media. Moreover, his delineation of reasons for conducting the interview (types of interviews) doesn't speak to the fact he simply provided a platform for KKK lies. Think for a moment about the chance any potential protesters or person determined to perpetrate civil unrest would call a cop and threaten to "rape his wife. The comments from the KKK leader was a play on "white fear" and was a disgusting case of post Jim Crow KKK racist oratory.

Now I ask, "On what network did we hear the guttural racism?"  It wasn't on the customary right-wing media outlets like Fox News and the Limbaugh EIB Network. Hayes's "cocktail party" exuberance for dialog does not lead to effective presentation of the more disgusting elements of the far Right.  Basically, Hayes failed in his quest for "sharing all sides of the story" just as he completely flopped on his handling of the Jerry Springer like Jennifer Stefano.

Here is how to handle the KKK. Inviting such guests to a nationally televised news source and allowing the guest to spew KKK rhetoric is less than sane (MSNBC).

Well, of course, no major network would handle the KKK as follows via Twitter and Anonymous #OpKKK, but think again about the utility and sanity of MSNBC airing a KKK commercial.
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  1. Anonymous Takes The Hoods Off KKK Members After Violent Threats | | Addicting Info Report |
  2. Her circumstance breaks my heart. She said she won't be at Easter dinner at John Michael's anymore knowing he has klan ties (5/6)
  3. I told her that we DO understand, she deserves better than those Easter dinners & is for her too. (4/?)
  4. Hammerskins affiliated with st louis kkk email MidlandHammerskin@gmail.com have fun boys lulz
  5. I am thrilled that klan trash added me to their cute little list.
  6. Why? You still have the freedom of speech. Just not your hoods ;)
  7. Deep respect for Anonymous for exposing the names and faces of the cowards who wear bedsheets over their heads
  8. Anonymous Unmasks KKK Creeps Threatening Lethal Force Against Ferguson Protesters (Images/Video)
  9. So, pulling Klan hoods & revealing dem boys behind sheets? THAT is an op i am 100% behind. That kind of hate needs bleach
  10. Has anyone cried 'Censorship' and 'Free Speech' over & yet?
  11. Reminder to check out the tag. New info to be released today
  12. Yes! We believe it now pull the hoods off them no good judges, pigs & city officials ~
  13. greetings you filthy white trash REAL IP address for --> 216.246.54.192 ChaosSec
  14. I love anonymous, is poetic, wish they would make a stance on gg and help stop the abuse and death/rape threats to women
  15. The KKK got their sever back up oh no! oh wait we shut it back down lol
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