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Friday, August 7, 2015

GOP Debate: A Visual Review And Fact Checks

Christie's intriguing stance?

We are a couple of days off on our review of the first 2016 GOP Presidential Debate. We have delayed comment for a couple of reasons. First, we are still in shock regarding the event. Do you recall this from the RNC Chair? 

We suggest Priebus was hopeful dreaming. He had to know Trump would resort to ego manical blabber. He had to know Ben Carson is a joke and doesn't appear to have full control of his mental processes. Priebus should also have warned Carson to avoid reading parts of his debate answers. Do you think the RNC Chair could have anticipated Rand Paul unscripted would be a disaster? He seems to have been asked fewer questions or he simply wasn't equipped for a forum that didn't facilitate his common rambling answers. The Kentucky Senator received the least amount to speaking time. We should probably assume Priebus was not aware Huckabee would go "sexual" and show signs of a lack of military acumen. 

The hopeful assessment of his "fine" candidates didn't materialize in the first top tier debate.  

We also delayed comment to secure perspective from various sources. The two fact check reviews at the end of this post were of particular interest.

GOP Debate speaking timeFINAL
Trump 11:06 
Bush 8:40 
Huck 6:39 
Kas 6:37 
Crz 6:33 
Carson 6:22 
Rubio 6:20 
Chris 6:10 
Walker 5:49 
 Paul 5:06

A Zany Preview

Huckabee: The military is not a social experiment. The purpose of the military is kill people and break things.” Also Pimps and Hookers. Do you recall a presidential debate that embodied such oratory..and from a supposed minister?

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Rand Paul Slam Dunked

Rand Paul works to garner attention and received "liberty" from others to take him out. 

Senator Rand Paul and Governor Chris Christie got into a heated exchange over the NSA - National Security Agency's data collection program. do you agree with? #GOPDebate
Posted by Fox News on Thursday, August 6, 2015 

Seriously eye roll from Rand Paul over Christie's hug line:— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) August 7, 2015

 Can someone  translate Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) August 7, 2015
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Crooks & Liars
When the 10 participants were asked to raise they're hand if they unwilling to pledge their support to the GOP nominee and not run as a third-party candidate, Trump put his hand up after a quick glance at his rivals

Moderator Bret Baier pressed him further, arguing, "experts say an independent run would almost certainly hand the race over the Democrats and likely another Clinton." But Trump held firm.

"I cannot say I have to respect the person that if it's not me, the person that wins. If I do win and I'm leading by quite a bit. That's what I want to do. I can totally make the pledge if I'm a nominee," Trump said. "I am discussing it with everybody. But I'm talking about a lot of leverage. We want to win and we will win. But I want to win as the Republican. I want to run as the Republican nominee."

His response prompted Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) to jump in the fray.

"This is what's wrong. He buys an sells politicians of all stripes. He's already hedging his bets on the Clintons," Paul said. "He's already hedging his bets because he's used to buying politicians."

Social Issues?

When Kelly and Baier declared "time for some social issues" they should have simply declared "time to talk about abortion." While we did to expect Fox News to foray into voter suppression, SCOTUS decision regarding the vote, undisputed cop abuse of black people, nor any moderator questions regarding the African-American experience in the GOP, 47 seconds on "Black Lives Matters" was telling.

First, the question was handed to the safest member of the GOP pack, Scott Walker. And, Scott delivered with an advertisement for Fox News and the black Milwaukee Sheriff who feels there is no cop abuse in black communities. 
Forty seven seconds! How is it acceptable for so many Americans Fox News, and the GOP to exist totally oblivious to an obvious social ill cop abuse. The debate ran two hours (including commercials); the run-time was completely void of any discussion of issues that affect minorities. I posit the debate format and Fox News provided validity regarding the GOP as the party of the white male baby-boomer with scant membership outside the white community.

We wouldn't expect much consideration of the black community from Fox News. We certainly are not surprised a network and host that would do broadcast as such less than a week before Christmas 2013 would handle issues of diversity any differently.


Kelly as moderator
Megyn Kelly has a long record of saying disturbing things about race:— Media Matters (@mmfa) August 7, 2015
It is impossible to avoid characterization of Kelly as a Fox News demagogue.


Megyn Kelly Goes After Trump for Misogynistic Comments Excerpt
“Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don’t use a politician’s filter,” Kelly said. “However that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women. You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals.” “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump joked, but Kelly didn’t let him get away with that. “No, it wasn’t,” she continued, asking, “Does that sound like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?” She wanted to know how Trump would combat inevitable charges from Hillary Clinton that he is part of the “war on women.” Trump turned the question into an issue about “political correctness,” something for which he said the country “doesn’t have time.” “Frankly, what I say — and oftentimes it’s fun, kidding, we have a good time — what I say is what I say,” Trump added. “And honestly, Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn’t do that.” Watch video below, via Fox News:

Alas, the audacity of the billionaire to expose ego that most would call childlike, if he wasn't a wealthy celebrity. On another note, Have you noticed that when any media (even liberal media) refers to Trump they use the words Mr. Trump?
Donald Trump to Megyn Kelly: You haven't treated me very nicely — Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 7, 2015
Kelly also asked the blustering Trump about immigration. The answer set the path for tired and worn-out trade oratory about Mexico, and spread to China. We have also posted additional reports related to the GOP's nascent party leader.
Does Mexico force many "bad people" into our country? We've said: Pants on Fire! #gopdebate— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) August 7, 2015

Donald Trump called for a single-payer, Canadian-style health care system 15 years ago...— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) August 7, 2015
 Trump reminds Paul he "wasn't doing to well."
Donald Trump slams Rand Paul — POLITICO (@politico) August 7, 2015
 Ted Cruz (didn't receive a full slate of questions, wonder why?)
Read's report after the break below

Scott Walker (lies, schmoozed up to Trump and delivered Koch speak) Embedded image permalink

Walker seems to surround himself with unsavory actors.

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Jeb Bush (a danger via his lack of mental acuity) Embedded image permalink

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Megyn Kelly moved to the final commercial break of the debate promising a snap closing for the candidate sand come back with a question about "GOD?"

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Wouldn't you know Fox News would incite Fox viewers and the predominate baby-boomer audience with "God." Of course, you noticed no questions about the US economy, oil prices, unemployment and the US Deficit. 

Let's review some fact checking via Politifact and FactChecker Dot Org

Politifact Debate real-time analysis
FactCheck Dot Org makes its fact checks available with full posting of its piece without editing or excerpts. We are posting the post GOP Debare FactCheck August 7, piece in its entirety.

FactChecking the GOP Debate, Early Edition

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