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Showing posts with label Americans for Prosperity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Americans for Prosperity. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 15, 2014

A Tea Party Media Operative and Performer Challenged Via Facts


Rick Santelli, open mouth yell the lies
One month after Barack Obama's inauguration as the 44th President of the United States, Rick Santelli CBNC floor reporter on the Chicago Board of Trade, performed the Mother of conservative rants on the CBT trading floor. His performance was possibly the first visual manifestation of what was to come via the Koch brothers Americans for Prosperity tea party movement.

If you have never seen the rant, spend five minutes or skip through the performance. 

 I have read headlines with a moniker of "Rant of the Year (2009)."  
The New York Times published a piece the day after the Santeilli rant. The piece included conservative support for the rant and comment from people who earn a living via media scrutiny and posit about our financial markets.
The New York Times, February 20, 2009
Yesterday Rick Santelli, who reports from the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade the for CNBC, unleashed a rant against Obama’s newly announced housing bailout plan, intended to help some homeowners refinance mortgages and avoid foreclosure. The clip was quickly linked to and embedded in Web sites everywhere, and provoked intense reaction that pretty much broke along partisan lines.
Read more including the aforementioned comments

Santelli's rant was an awfully well crafted display of emotion against Obama Administration plan to assist people who were victims of the Bush sub-prime crash and the 2008 collapse of the US economy. Crooks and Liars editors must also have felt Santelli's 2009 rant was staged to provide impetus for the Koch tea party movement; linked here.

The well crafted visual,  replete with staged carnival barking, led to a movement that inspired high-end baby boomers to protest. Sales of the American flag surely quadrupled. Lawn chair sales sky-rocketed.  It is possible the mobile restroom company revenues went over the top to accommodate aging prostrates, bladders and urinary tracts.

NoTaxesNever before had America experienced protests from its high-end baby Boomers. It was a movement of movements for the early 21st Century and it was a major facade. "No Taxes" was the mantra; winning the US House and Senate was the underlying mission.

It was a movement that provided energy and inertia for conservative victories in the 2010 mid-term elections. The tea party capture and infestation of the US House of Representatives has become a major contributor to the current do nothing Congress, credit rating downgrades, government shutdowns and the (so-called) "Sequester." President Obama referred to the 2010 tea party victory as a "shellacking" for the Democrats. It was an existential "shellacking" for the nation, we simply had no idea at the time.

Apparently, Santelli embarked on another rant this week. Santell's target this week: Federal reserve policy. He was met head-on with a panel who placed credibility over rhetoric and performance.

Steve Liesman Destroys Rick Santelli 


A final question, because we need not comment beyond the video above.

Why do people on the Right (media in particular) to the person deploy wide-open mouth yelling and screaming when challenged or cornered? 
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Wednesday, April 23, 2014

Chris Revisits On His Over-talking and Uncivil Right-Wing Guests. "Learn From Them?



Chris Hayes came back to the airways on Monday (April 21, 2014) and addressed a discussion that took place the previous Friday. During a segment on Friday the MSNBC show host took part in what as supposed to be a discussion of the Cliven Bundy tax evasion conflict: linked.  The Bundy conflict that has become a cause celeb for Fox News and many on the conservative Right.  In fact, Sean Hannity has gone complete revolutionary while touching his toes into sedition very much unbecoming of an alleged news network. 

If you viewed and listened to the linked segment, you should understand why many on the Left an Right took exception to the interaction, although from different perspectives.

Conservatives seem to find the Hayes show fertile ground for spewing mantra, and angst filled comment.  Their indecency and lack of civility seems to flow during some show segments. Some on the Left feel Hayes invites conservatives to his show, while ill-prepared when they "full-rant" and Gish Gallop*.

Chris Hayes's Monday segment.  

http://video.msnbc.msn.com....



  Key comment from Chris.
"I think people know where I stand on these issues....."   
"...politics is about having those arguments...."   
"...actually learning by hearing what the other side has to say..."  
"...it is important to understand how they are thinking about....how they see the world"  
"...the point is not to bring them on an thoroughly humility them on national television..."  
"...I want to hear from them..." 
"...and I think I have a better understanding of American politics because of it..."  
 "...so we are gong to keep doing this..."  


"I think people know where I stand on these issues....." So, Chris are you saying it is your position to simply provide people like Stefano a platform? 
"...politics is about having those arguments...." Two of the three cited guests, Chris, did not argue a point, the guest Gish Galloped you to the point of smug-face sitting as a stifled show host. No arguments ensued
"...actually learning by hearing what the other side has to say..."
Learning what they have to say is admirable and humane, two points. First, they are not civil nor considerate in their treatment the show host (you). More important providing a seven minute segment is not sufficient to accomplish your stated goal of "learning."




"...it is important to understand how they are thinking about....how they see the world"  
Debatable actually. Why do so many conservatives refuse to appear on The Ed Show, TRMS, and The Last Word.  I have heard each host appeal for certain conservatives to appear on their shows. "NO TAKERS."  Also, if they "know how you think," Chris as you stated, then you actually also know how they think. So the booking is to fulfill the dynamics of the political television show. A vastly different dynamic than a lecture in which learning theoretical happens. Or, better yet a social gathering where length dialog ensues with no real mind-change in either party.

"...the point is not to 
bring them on an 
thoroughly 
humility them 
on national television..."  
Yes, but there is such a thing as controlling the process as the show host via knowledge of techniques to stop "Gish Gallop."
"...I want to hear from them..."Of course, and it is your show Chris, but it is not a show in a vacuum. You have viewers. Viewers who may not come to your show to hear Fox News like rants and effective use of Gish Gallop. 
"...and I think I have a better understanding of American politics because of it..." ....... and you have every right to get that "...better understanding of American politics" offered via the Stefano Clip above.  I suppose we viewers are just items spread across the nation with no vested interested in such guests.
"...so we are gong to keep doing this..."  
Well, I will have to be much more mindful of your guest, to facilitate television remote unit options to flick off the guest.  I can see Right-wing angst via visiting Fox News. The fact that you revisited the Friday state legislator, indicates thought (by someone)  contrary to your statement about seeking leaning experiences from such people. Or, at least that is how it seemed to me.


Hayes offered two examples in the segment above. You may not have a need to view the following excerpts again, but the two examples (from Hayes) show very different host/Right-wing interaction.  

Clip 1. Stefano (paid Americans for Prosperity Anti-democrat, anti-progressive, anti-American democracy mouth-piece...armed to smother with Gish Gallup noise and a gotcha affront while occupying Hayes segment air-time.)

  

Clip 2. Wolfowitz (Iraq War architect)


Wolfowitz made his point and we can assume the segment passed to finish in a civility and between host and guest in a shared manner. The Stefano clip was a perfect example of a guest using a form of Gish Gallop to tie the interaction into a knot. A knot from which the host failed to break and return the segment to an intellectual exchange.  The abuser knows the segment will end just about the time,  her rant ends and she knows there is no opportunity to run the segment for a longer period. 

*Rational Wiki 
The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments - the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. 

Make now mistake, liberal America needs more advocates like Chris Hayes, I watch his show on the daily, and often use video segments from his show as adjunct embeds to articles published on the TPI

Our, concern, which is not shared by Chris Hayes, relates to the uselessness of booking tea party (Koch operative) talking-heads machine gun mouths, if the segment ends with Chris sitting as if shocked his Boy Scout exhibit did not win a prize. When the host ends a segment as was the case last Friday: "...please don't put words in my mouth." Well, that is not effective current event exploration nor is it an effective point-counter-point learning experience. 

Hayes, referred to point counter-point as not "high school wrestling." I thought that analogy was somewhat condescending, but hey it is Chris Hayes' show. He can use whatever analogy he chooses. 

With due respect to Chris Hayes, I observed an MSNBC segment this evening with a host who effectively handled a tea-party talking head. She accomplished host control just as the talking head was launching into his Gish Gallop-like soliloquy. Joy Ann-Reid... (The salient portion of the segment starts at the 4:44 minute mark. The segment relates to Tea Party impact on the GOP and the fall elections.)

http://on.msnbc.com/1tzoTBm



Inviting guest on a show "....to learn perspectives and better understand US politics" is admirable. Admirable, but I question the choice of forum and the use of critical interaction with the few conservatives who accept discussion on liberal media. No one knows the seriousness of 'the message' better than Chris Hayes.  The viewer loses out, when the message is diluted with strategic manipulation of limited time, via yelling and Gish Galloping issues out of the blue (to cloudy and render the segment and arguments indiscernible)

We as viewers may not share Hayes's quest for learning from guest who are highly compensated (probably by the Kochs in some way)  demagogues and fulfilling a mission or guest focused on tearing apart a news segment.

Control the process Chris! You will find your guest more respectful of your positions and they will more often than not hear you points. 
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Saturday, March 1, 2014

AFP Ad Again Manipulates People



Nice UNI-demographic crowd, eh?
The Koch funded Americans for Prosperity continues to run anti-ACA ads that are not fully revealing while reaching into your psyche for pity. 

We are certain there are people who are being negatively impacted by the cancellation of policies some felt was "their cup of tea."
Yesterday February 28, 2014, Steve Benen addressed the Lamb commercial, and her medical insurance experience, here
Benen's article is particularly noteworthy in its probing of Lamb's actual insurance experience. 
Here’s Lamb’s message:
“I was diagnosed with lupus when I was 27. Lupus is an autoimmune disorder. It’s dramatically affected my life. I voted for Barack Obama for president. I thought that Obamacare was going to be a good thing. Instead of helping me, Obamacare has made my life almost impossible. “Barack Obama told us we could keep our health insurance if we liked it. And we can’t. I got a letter in the mail saying that my health insurance was over, that it was gone. It was canceled because of Obamacare. My premiums went from $52 a month to $373 a month. I’m having to work a second job to pay for Obamacare. For somebody with lupus, that’s not an easy thing. “If I can’t afford to continue to pay for Obamacare, I don’t get my medicine; I don’t get to see my doctors. I am very disappointed in Barack Obama as a president. He made promises he didn’t keep. And that’s disheartening.”
Benen cogently and concisely address the Lamb's insurance experience, thus showing the AFP ad for what is is worth: Propaganda. 
Lamb’s old insurance plan included low premiums because it was part of a Tennessee program that split the costs between consumers, their employers, and state funds. The plan, however, wasn’t very good – it included, among other things, a low annual cap, exactly the sort of thing the Affordable Care Act prohibits.   So it’s true that those with bad insurance were required to make the transition to better insurance.   But what about her high premiums? Glenn Kessler took a closer look. 
Once Lamb was required to go on Obamacare, she discovered she qualified for a $15-a-month subsidy, which could be applied to nearly 40 different options. She chose one of the more expensive options – a Platinum plan – because it limited out of pocket expenses to $1,500, as her doctor fees and blood tests would be higher under the Obamacare plans. She also considered a plan with a lower premium, but it would have meant higher out of pocket expenses. “Instead of paying $6,000 a year, I would have been paying $10,000 a year” with the plan with a lower premium, she said. […] In other words, AFP has managed to highlight a very unique case – someone with a chronic condition who did not face high annual costs. A very unique case, indeed. Kessler flagged a more typical experience for someone with Lupus. 
One Lupus sufferer, Erin Kotecki Vest, blogged that she was amazed at Lamb’s tale of woe after she researched the coverage provided by CoverTN. “Just ONE of my treatments ALONE wipes out everything CoverTN had to offer me,” she wrote. “I would hit CoverTN’s $25,000 annual limit the first week of January.” In contrast to Lamb, this Lupus sufferer is thrilled to be on Obamacare. Kotecki Vest gleefully wrote in November that her family ditched her husband’s employer-provided plan after they discovered they would save nearly $19,000 a year by switching to a plan offered on healthcare.gov. For some reason, Kotecki Vest was not asked to appear in an AFP ad. 
Imagine that.
Concerned Americans should know, the Kochs are would be plutocrats who would love nothing more than an American oligarchy with their faces emblazoned across the first 50 feet of the Washington Monument.   
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Sunday, September 29, 2013

Tea Party Fades..What About the Cancer Left in Congress? Southern Ideology Vs. The Ideal House


Tea party ralliers wave flags outside the Capitol. | Jay Westcott/POLITICO
The only thing missing at the event attended by three senators? A big audience. | Jay Westcott/POLITICO
The Tea Party is fading like an Alka Seltzer in four ounces of tap water! However, the cancer has taken a toll on American society.

There are few in the United States who are unaware of the Koch brothers (Charles and David). Well, I should qualify my statement, "...the Koch brothers well-known among people who follow contemporary politics, current events, and the erosion of US politics for the people."  The Kochs are two of the world's richest men with family DNA including co-foundling the John Birch Society, have a stranglehold on the majority of conservative politicians. We posit there are few legislative initiatives, decisions or agreements from the GOP that are not in some way influenced by the Koch brothers. 

The Kochs have disavowed intimate involvement in creation of the Tea Party. Rest assured the position is a deep and straightforward a lie as any told from conservative America. The Koch Facts Dot Com page offers the following graphic for media inquires regarding the Kochs and Americans for Prosperity (AFP) and Americans for Prosperity Foundation. 

The proliferation of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), receives major support from the Kochs, thus providing a Mixed Martial Arts "rear-naked choke hold" on state legislatures.

As John McCain and Sarah Palin fizzled-out of the 2008 General Election, Koch money and their conservative/libertarian support structure led to development of a movement with a singular purpose. Conservative America needed a strategic hold on US Federal government via control of both Houses of the US Congress. What better way to excite a movement than an opportunity to leverage the election of a Democrat president and an African-American in the Oval Office.  The 2010 Elections for conservative plutocrats offered tantalizing prospects. 


Linked

A Koch public relations statement from the page.
Koch and Americans for Prosperity
Among the hundreds of organizations that have received monetary support from Koch companies, Charles Koch, David Koch, and/or the Koch foundations are Americans for Prosperity and Americans for Prosperity Foundation. 
AFP and AFP Foundation’s overall mission of promoting sound economic thinking is one in which we firmly believe. In addition, they stand for ideals that are critical to our nation’s future and the well-being of all people: limited government as set forth in the Constitution; fiscal responsibility; removing unnecessary barriers to entrepreneurship; and restoring fairness to our judicial system. 
AFP and AFP Foundation operate independently of Koch Industries. We are not involved in their day-to-day operations and we do not direct the activities of either organization.
As a matter of fact, the Kochs contribute to organizations numbering in the hundreds. They are reported to be contributors to the arts, but they also provide significant support for a cancer that is now eating away at the US House of Representatives. The cancer is the aforementioned Tea Party. 

Within the week, the National Journal has accessed previously (and published) non-public IRS documents that clearly show Koch involvement in organizations that have and continue to provide bed-rock financial support for the tea party movement. AFP (and Freedom Works) provided the money seeding for the tea party. The document you are about to view, lists the Kochs as top donors for the  2003 (then) newly formed AFP.

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Sunday, August 18, 2013

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) Under Attack By Plutocrats

Americans for Prosperity
Americans for Prosperity (AFP)

The Americans for Property Ad campaigns are overflowing with Koch Brothers ad money.

Media JSonline
According to Streve Benen of the Maddow Blog AFP spent $1 million last month of an ad campaign that is so full of feces (to keep it clean) it is an insult.   The ad was so obviously produced for people who suffer from the new coined "low information" syndrome.  You know them. The visit Fox News each day for constant anti-Obama bombardment, and I am certain dream of life past without an African-American in the White House. 


You might spot them from time to time as they go spasmodic when they hear information that has escaped their grey matter.  Politifact found out just what it is like to hear from one with the "low information" syndrome. 

Politifact Dot Com
A reader asked us to check a dramatic statistic on income inequality from President Barack Obama’s recent speech on the economy in Galesburg, Ill. 
"The income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged," Obama said in the July 24, 2013, speech. 
When we asked the White House for supporting evidence, a spokesman pointed us to a study published in late 2011 by the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan budget-analysis arm of Congress. 

TrueThe study looked at income trends between 1979 and 2007 for various income levels, including the top 1 percent.  
CBO found that over that period, the top 1 percent’s inflation-adjusted, after-tax income rose by a cumulative 275 percent. Over 28 years, that averages to almost a 10 percent increase each year. 
Or, they can be spotted as sheeple who believe every utterance from the mouths of these GOP politicians.

Of the roughly 15 percent of Americans who don’t have health insurance, "half of them made more than $50,000 a year."










Ted Cruz
Ted Cruz



False
  

Says President Obama just granted all of Congress an exception" to Obamacare.






                                   Pants on Fire!
                           U.N. says document is a persuasive-looking fake

A United Nations working group has "adopted a proposed agenda" to enable member nations to "disarm civilians within their borders."


Oops, it looks like I included a well known Right-wing piece of propaganda  One which I have directly heard a very "low information  idiot say directly to my face.  

Americans for Prosperity relies of on the "low information" syndrome as a vehicle to political obstruction and advancement of their desire to literally rule over the United States of America. Two (or three) brothers whose family lineage includes Fred Koch who worked for communist Joseph Stalin and who was an early member of the  John Birch Society. His strong support for the John Birch Society is reported to have been the result of hatred for communism born of his life with Joseph Stalin. An understandable belief system if it were not for other deplorable baggage (racist and anti-Semite) associated with the  society.  The Koch plutocrats may have family connections which are truly even more deplorable than common known to most Americans. 

Photo: FROM DIRTY FUEL TO DIRTY POLITICAL TRICKS! — It takes money to keep the Party of Stupid operating like they had good sense. And it's the billionaire Koch brothers providing the funding, from the fancy Americans for Prosperity buses to elaborate campaign for their favorite candidates. From the so called Republican think tanks to the "astroturfed" Tea Party. These Mother Frackers are ruining our environment by doubling down on fossil fuels when we've already reached the critical tipping point on global warming. And they are behind the Supreme Court's recent decisions to declare corporations as people and money as speech. If it's horrible for the middle class, labor, of the environment, the Koch Machine is behind it. See my first comment for a link to this topic.

 On July 8th, Steve Benen published a piece that included the following opening statement and included the following video.
Since the Affordable Care Act became law, its opponents on the right have spent about $400 million on television ads attacking it, while allies of "Obamacare" have invested about $75 million in support of the law.


Benen masterfully address the video as follows. In fact, anyone who wants to know answers to questions posed in the video can easily find such answers.
"And what am I getting in exchange for higher premiums and a smaller paycheck? Can I really trust the folks in Washington with my family's health care? I think we all deserve some answers." 
On that last point, I agree -- answers are great. In fact, if the Koch brothers and the person in this spot are eager to learn more about federal health care law, then let's fill in the gaps. 
* "If we can't pick our own doctor...." Good news: the Affordable Care Act doesn't stop you from picking your own doctor. There are private insurers that discourage use of "out-of-plan" physicians, but that's not a part of "Obamacare." For Americans For Prosperity to suggest otherwise is obviously dishonest. 
* "What am I getting in exchange for higher premiums...." The vast majority of Americans won't see higher premiums, so the "question," such as it is, misleads. But for those who will see an increase, as Sarah Kliff explained, they'll get quite a bit: "So, what do consumers get in return? For one thing, insurance companies will have to accept their enrollment no matter what. An applicant with a preexisting condition, for example, gets to sign up for a plan that they might not currently qualify for. Older Americans get limits on how much insurers can charge them; women will no longer get charged a higher premium than men. There are certain benefits, too, that health insurance plans are required to cover." 
* " Can I really trust the folks in Washington with my family's health care?" The implication is that federal officials will control families' care, which isn't true in 
the slightest.
This past Friday AFP floated another piece of propaganda developed to leverage confusion about the Affordable Care Act.


Questions Radio?  

According to Benen...

The problem, of course, is that the message of the ad is pure garbage. Salon called it the "stupidest anti-Obamacare campaign ever," and given some of the advertising in recent years, that's no small claim.

Benen used a Greg Sargent quote to show the extent to which the radio spot is focused on "low information" viewers an listeners.

Greg Sargent highlighted the other most obvious misleading claim.
[P]erhaps the most revealing thing of all is the ad's warning of public confusion about the law. To buttress the impression that the ad is a catastrophe, the ad claims: "ABC News says confusion and doubt are prognosis for Obamcare."
And it's true: The ABC News article in question does bear that headline. But the article actually presents this not as a sign that the law itself is flawed, but as a sign that the public remains ignorant about what's actually in it. The article is about how many Americans, even those who stand to gain from the law, are not yet aware of its benefits.
This neatly underscores the game plan behind ads like these: spread confusion about the law -- in a deliberate effort to prevent folks from learning what's actually in it -- while simultaneously citing confusion about the law as evidence that it's a disaster in hopes that folks will give up on it.
The Koch brothers via Americans for Prosperity's ads have given the nation more opportunity to see how conservative plutocrats manipulate the minds of  "low information" viewers and listeners.  We used the word "manipulate."  We tried to avoid reality for a moment as it is early on a Sunday morning. The Koch brothers and Americans for Prosperity clearly developed ads with intent to propagandize against healthcare reform.  

Americans have a right to believe what they wish. We have every right to avoid information which leads to living as a much less informed citizen. We certainly have the right to cast votes as we wish.

We do not have the right to have your chosen state of "low information" and "Stockholm Syndrome" affinity for all that is Right, negatively impact people who completely abhor the ideology that leads to ads, as embedded above, filled with outright lies.

Image: "Low Information Voter" linked via clicking image
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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Kochs Want To Own America (Romney is their lynchpin)


I was recently re-introduced to the Kochs from a perspective that I will admit to being shamelessly ignorant. David and Charles Koch come from 'stock' that many might consider dangerous to any society.  Dangerous if one considers that so many of our traits, character, and motivations are passed down through our DNA. If you or I somehow avoid physical and mental family DNA, think about the significant impact of our 'upbringing" (lineage, environment and parenting).  The Kochs have a lineage that includes societal horrors in Nazi German and the 1950's US John Birch Society(JBS).

Writers admit to difficulty in finding information about the Koch family. A history that may connect to Nazi war Crimes.   How about a quick journey through the Koch's contribution to the Third Reich. 

Let's start with a Ilse Koch:

Unknownjounral.wordpress.com (many bloggers are reporting this same information . The root origin of the information is not easy to locate)

 Ilse Koch

Notorious Nazis Ilse Koch, her husband Karl Otto Koch and Erich Koch are the ghosts of  Koch Industries, who seized the U.S. conservative political agenda years ago and seem capable of seizing the government in total through the Tea Party. Ilse Koch was the Nazi’s specialist in making objects from human skin; was the only woman charged with war crimes; and along with her husband was in charge of one of the most horrific horror camps in Nazi Germany. Ilse and her husband Karl were tried by the SS before the war ended, accused of corruption. Her husband Karl Otto Koch was tried and sentenced to death in Nazi Germany. After the war, Ilse was arrested in the German American Zone, tried in front of a tribunal and sentenced, but was quickly pardoned by the American general appointed leader of the zone.
Erich Koch
Koch reported to Hitler that unemployment had been banished entirely from East Prussia, a feat that gained admiration throughout the Reich.

On September 1, Koch became Reichskommissar of Reichskommissariat Ukraine with control of the Gestapo and the police. His domain was extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea; he captured ethnic German, Polish, Belarus and Ukrainian’s declaring that “Ukraine children need no schools. What they’ll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters” and “If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot..”.
Brother of Erich Koch, Karl Otto Koch
….(August 2, 1897 – April 5, 1945), a Standartenf├╝hrer (Colonel) in the German Schutzstaffel (SS), was the first commandant of the Nazi concentration camps at Buchenwald. On August 1, 1937 he was given command of the new concentration camp at Buchenwald. Investigation into his improper conduct at Buchenwald included corruption, fraud, embezzlement, drunkenness, sexual offences and a murder. Koch’s orders to kill prisoners at the camp were revealed, as well as embezzlement of property stolen from prisoners.
Fred Chase Koch
….(September 23, 1900 – November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm that later became Koch Industries (Chevron). Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline. Litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and NAZI GERMANY, reportedly with the help of ERICH KOCH.

During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalin’s regime “a land of hunger, misery and terror”.

Fred C. Koch married Mary Robinson in Kansas City, Missouri in 1932. They had four sons, Frederick (b. 1933), Charles (b. 1935), David (b. 1940) and William (b. 1940). His sons are Charles de Ganahl Koch and David H. Koch.
Now let's move forward to the 1950's and Fred Koch, David and Charles Koch's father.

The John Birch Society

Origins


The society was established in Indianapolis, Indiana, on December 9, 1958, by a group of 12 led by Robert Welch, Jr., a retired candy manufacturer from Belmont, Massachusetts. Welch named the new organization after John Birch, an American Baptist missionary and United States military intelligence officer who was shot by communist forces in China in August 1945, shortly after the conclusion of World War II. Welch claimed that Birch was an unknown, but dedicated anti-communist,[7] and the first American casualty of the Cold War.

One of the founding members[22][23][24] was Fred Koch,[25] founder of Koch Industries, one of the largest private corporations in America.[26]

Robert Welch, JR,. on , "What is the John Birch Society". 

Youtube.... (4:13 Minutes. The primary focus for posting here is the last 2 minutes of the video)


If Fred Koch was one of 20 founders of the JBS, I posit it is impossible his children (at least the two most visible) managed to avoid a paradigm that coincided with the following.   


The John Birch Society is as anti-civil Rights, as the Ku Klux Klan. The basic difference between the two cancers in US society are tactics for achievement of a 'snow white' society. The JBS's possible acceptance of African-Americans living in servitude and certainly in a state akin to American Southern Jim Crowe is both offset and complimented by the Ku Klux Klan and many other white supremacist groups. While the Ku Klux Klan is generally about the uneducated, and guttural business of hatred of blacks, Jews and Catholics, the Welch/Koch founded JBS is much more crippling to the basic fabric of a fair America. 

If you watched Point 2 of the video, you heard Welch speak about JBS's concern with communism.  Much written material indicate the JBS aversion to civil rights was, and is, based in its concern for infiltration of communist and associated doctrine. Nonetheless, we lump the Ku Klux Klan, the John Birch Society as well as the Mormon Church are similarly anti-minority and harbor beliefs contrary to American principles as a republic democracy.  

Have you noticed the sprinkling of Republicnas we are openly using the word, "communism" in their opratory?  One has to wonder if they are not pandering to the Kochs.

If you take a bit of time and educate yourself about Charles and David Koch, you might get a better feel for progressive contempt at every mention of their names.  The name is forever emblazoned in world history.   Why allow the descendants of such shame take a financial hold on the Executive branch of the US Government?


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