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Showing posts with label Black on Black crime. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Black on Black crime. Show all posts

Wednesday, November 26, 2014

Black on Black Crime As Political Fodder And Social Dog Whistle Minus A Mirror

Whites do it also!

On November 24th, I published a piece as a retort to Rudy Giuliani's attack-mode comment to Fox News's Steve Doocey:

".....Giuliani told Fox’s Steve Doocey, explaining why he was “very frustrated” with protesters in Ferguson, Missouri. “The danger to a black child,” he added, “is another black.” Before claiming “there is virtually no homicide in the white community,”
"Is another black." Not "another black person."

The first comment was bedded deep in the psyche of a person that if you did not have the name of the speaker, you might feel the person was a racist. "another black.'

If you refuse to allow yourself to see the how the comment could flag the racist, I trust you accept it sounds somewhat bigoted. Chose your label, at the end of it all the meaning is the same. Giuliani reveal himself as a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan.  

“There is virtually no homicide in the white community,” 

The comment was ludicrous and outside the realm of a sane mind. As stated in the piece linked above, Giuliani is a former mayor of the nation's most populated city and he once sought the US Presidency. I will not restate data that refutes the former mayor. My piece is now archived with quotes the same data you will see and read in the following embeds and links.

While I have moved on from Giuliani's Sarah Palin moment, others have taken-up the depiction of a man obsessed with striking out at Micheal Eric Dyson he figuratively struck-out at Dyson with a 'wet noodle.

Politifacts reviewed Giuliani's 93% of black homicides are perpetrated by other black people and found the data "Mostly True.

Politifacts excerpt
The last time we looked at this topic, we asked Professor David M. Kennedy, director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, why this might be. 
"Homicides overwhelmingly happen among people who know each other," Kennedy said. "There are relatively few absolutely straight-up stranger homicides. Homicide is a phenomenon of social networks. ... Most peoples’ relationships are primarily with someone of their own race or ethnicity. As long as anybody has studied homicide, this has been the pattern." 
So Giuliani’s point about black-on-black homicide doesn’t carry us very far in exploring murder in America. The percentage is higher for blacks than for whites, but only by seven to nine percentage points, depending on the time period you use. 
We did find that young black men, ages 14 to 24, suffer disproportionately from murder. While the numbers have been falling since the mid-1990s, in 2008 about 16 percent of homicide victims were young and black. As a group, they represented just 1 percent of the population. 
Young white men were also disproportionately at risk, but the situation was not quite as dire. They comprised about 6 percent of the population and 10 percent of murder victims. 
On the offender side, young black men accounted for 27 percent of everyone who committed murder in 2008. Young white men accounted for 16 percent. 
Our ruling 
Giuliani said that 93 percent of blacks are murdered by blacks.


In July of 2013, Politifact's Amy Sherman published a piece that seems to better reflect the fallacy of African-Americans killing African-Americans as endemic only within the African-American Community. Homicide is a violent act that sadly exists as a crime of opportunity more common within people who live in close proximity. In more basic terms, whites kill whites are equally alarming rates, but whites do not take-up the mantra of 'white on white" crime. It is mantra of the privileged and is used as a tool against the less privileged.

I have taken and excerpted a couple of pieces from the 2013 piece. We strongly encourage reading the entire Politifact piece and we feel you should do so before our commented excerpts.
Mostly FalseTweets"In the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African-Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans."
— Tweets on Sunday, July 14th, 2013 in tweets

A look at statistics on black-on-black murders

Martin, 17, was unarmed when he got into a scuffle with Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012. A jury acquitted Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer whose lawyer argued self-defense, of second-degree murder and manslaughter. (Read our fact-checks that relate to the case and Florida’s "stand your ground" law.)
Statistic about blacks killed during course of Trayvon case
We found the claim about murders on the conservative soopermexican blog; it appears to have originated there. His blog walks readers through the math on getting to 11,106 deaths in 513 days. (We counted 503 days, not 513, but that’s a tiny quibble.)

The blogger, citing an earlier blog post and The Blaze, stated that there were 8,000 to 9,000 African-Americans killed each year -- 93 percent of them by African-Americans.
The numbers came from a 2007 U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics report, which stated that blacks were victims of 7,999 homicides in 2005 and said that 93 percent were killed by people who shared their race. (It wasn’t clear to us where the blogger’s 9,000 figure came from.)

The "Soopermexican Blog?  Needless to say, I have no need to visit the page as I am certain any topics related to Trayvon Martin would fall int he same realm as killers of young black men who garner millions from their murderous acts.  

Now, take a look and read, the "Soopermexican" admits their misinterpretation of data with a clarification or a claim.

The blog post makes it sound as if the black-on-black murder rate is particularly significant, but we found similar high percentages for whites. 
The report also stated that 85 percent of white victims in single-victim and single-offender homicides were murdered by someone of their race. So that means the majority of black and white people are murdered by someone of their own race. In 2005, there were 8,017 white homicide victims. 
The race victim/offender data isn’t shown for every case: It is only shown in the casesin which the race was known (some murders are never solved) and in cases involving a single victim and defendant.
We sent a summary of our findings to the soopermexican blogger. 
"I think your criticism of the number I arrived at has some merit," he wrote in an email. "I should have made it more clear that is the best extrapolation from the numbers that are available. While the FBI stats don't include all known cases, I don't see why the cases where race stats are known shouldn't be representative of the entire class of murders. Yes, it's true that murder rates have come down generally, which I'm pretty sure applies to all race/ethnic classes." 
As for white-on-white homicides also representing a high percentage, he said the point he was trying to make is that it’s wrong to suggest that "white racism is killing blacks disproportionately."

Blithe and impetuous data interpretation generates misinformation and generalization that once set as a paradigm are impossible to uproot. We should hope the Soopermexican blog writer's intent was blithe and impetuous instead of intentionally misrepresenting data for Fox News like bravado as fodder for his readers (viewers).

How did Politifact finish the 2013 piece?

So statistics show that most murders in which the race can be measured are intraracial. We wanted to know why. 
We interviewed Professor David M. Kennedy, director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City. 
"Homicides overwhelmingly happen among people who know each other," he said. "There are relatively few absolutely straight-up stranger homicides. Homicide is a phenomenon of social networks. ... Most peoples’ relationships are primarily with someone of their own race or ethnicity. As long as anybody has studied homicide, this has been the pattern." (See thehistorical data.)
Writer Jamelle Bouie in The Daily Beast wrote a response to conservatives who have been trying to shift the conversation to black-on-black crime while ignoring that the same shared racial identity holds true for white-on-white crime, too.
Bouie wrote that what is missing from the conversation about crime is that "it’s driven by opportunism and proximity; If African-Americans are more likely to be robbed, or injured, or killed by other African-Americans, it’s because they tend to live in the same neighborhoods as each other. Residential statistics bear this out (PDF); blacks are still more likely to live near each other or other minority groups than they are to whites. And of course, the reverse holds as well—whites are much more likely to live near other whites than they are to minorities and African-Americans in particular."
Our ruling
In response to the Zimmerman case, social media repeated this claim: "In the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African-Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans."Some who are citing this statistic are using it to portray race as an overemphasized point in the Zimmerman trial. We’re not evaluating that opinion; we’re fact-checking the math based on the available data.The number sounds extremely precise, but it's actually something of a rough guess based on back-of-the envelope math. No one actually knows how many African-Americans were murdered by other African-Americans in that time frame, and the numbers cited are actually an extrapolation of murder statistics for 2005. More current figures from 2011 show fewer deaths. So the specific numbers are not literally accurate.
Also, this claim lacks important context. Yes, it’s true that the majority of black murder victims are murdered by blacks, but the same holds true for whites: Most whites are murdered by whites. And in both cases, this race statistic is not available for all murders, but only ones where the race of both perpetrator and victim can be determined.

The Politifact ruling regarding the Tweet is linked here.


Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Don Lemon Steps Up Behind O'Reilly (And Claims It!) Part II: Racism, "Black on Black Crime" and White Privilege

As we started this set of screeds with Part I, we stated our primary issues were, Bill O'Reilly's Fox News racist diatribe in response to President Obama's press conference a week ago. A secondary, yet ever more important, reason for Part I was Don Lemon's, CNN News, out of whack judgment in following someone like Bill O'Reilly down any path that leads to contemplation and comment of the African-American community. 

Bill O'Reilly's criticism of black community "Doesn't go far enough. " Don Lemon.

O'Reilly's purpose was clear and concerted.  Lemon's purpose clouded, misguided and very poorly delivered (timing and setting).  As stated in Part I, the Right has turned the words "Black on black crime" into a very audible dog whistle  Every time the discussion of the heinous killings across the nation pop-up, we hear someone the Right yelp about "black on black crime."  I have heard such in the aftermath of the Colorado theater mass killing.  Relevance please? 

O'Reilly mentioned the dog whistle and promptly rampaged into a number of disparaging specious remarks about the black community.

Many of his remarks were groundless and accompanied by obvious visible hatred of President Obama. Lemon via his comments "Did not go far enough" folded his agreement with O'Reilly into his self anointed and shallow rage against some in the Black community. The vast majority of African-Americans also hold 'sagging pants" and use of the "N" word in contempt. Does Lemon believe that his ratings garnering rant will affect change more readily than action oriented efforts by key movers and shakers in the black community?
We offer a series of short videos that truly capture effective and productive dialog regarding the impetus for O'Reilly's rant and Lemon's ill-advised magnetizing to O'Reilly.  

We have taken a few clips from the Tim Wise web site linked above. The links are from a recent segment on the Melissa Harris-Perry Show. While Wise shared the stage with four very notable panelist, we are going to focus on Wise for a couple of reasons. He is white and he is very effective at delivering messages that many people find tough hard to stomach language.

Black on Black crime anyone?

Two minutes of The Ed Show

Now let's drill deeper.

Twenty-three (23) seconds of pure truism from someone not of the black community: Tim Wise.

Tim Wise on Melissa Harris-Perry show July 20, 2013. We provide three excerpts from the segment.  The entire segment can be located on or Tim Wise Dot Org.

Full Clip 

Black on Black crime

What follows embodies the reason it was important for the president to speak on the judicial system, speak of recent murders of young black men, and speak about stereotypical reactions from whites and the need to grow beyond such. 

The race problem in the United States is not a problem born from African-Americans.  O'Reilly's deflection is as useless as Lemons efforts to reach into communities he, frankly, cannot reach.  

Others have spoken out against US racism. One very noted activist is a person not commonly associated with US racism and its oppressive impact on the Black Community. As we consider the person,  one can hardly criticize his liberalism one conservatism nor can anyone question his intellect. We offer Albert Einstein.

The Coli Dot Com 
Albert Einstein 
“As for the Negroes this country still has a heavy debt to discharge for all the troubles and disabilities it has laid on the Negro's shoulders; for all that his fellow-citizens have done and to some extent are still doing to him. To the Negro and his wonderful songs and choirs we owe the finest contribution in the realm of art which America has so far given to the world. And this great gift we owe, not to those whose names are engraved on this ‘Wall of Fame’ but to children of the people, blossoming namelessly as the lilies of the field.” [5]

“There is ... a somber point in the social outlook of Americans ... Their sense of equality and human dignity is mainly limited to men of white skins. Even among these there are prejudices of which I as a Jew am dearly conscious; but they are unimportant in comparison with the attitude of ‘Whites’ toward their fellow-citizens of darker complexion, particularly toward Negroes. ... The more I feel an American, the more this situation pains me. I can escape the feeling of complicity in it only by speaking out.” 

Racism is America’s greatest disease” and “Racism is a disease of the white man.” 

Jones, Ronald. "The Human Genome, American Societies, “The Clinical Epidemiology of Pathological Antisocial Thinking”, and Albert Einstein" Paper presented at the annual meeting of the Association for the Study of African American Life and History, Atlanta Hilton, Charlotte, NC, . 2009-12-02

Of course, any reference to white America and the "Negro" would fall on O'Reilly's deft ears. 

A reminder for DOn Lemon about Bill O'Reilly. If a mind would take a person to the following how can an intelligent being find any reason to align on any reason. 

We hope that Lemon and anyone of rational mind who would opt for more direct attempts at interventions. It does not take a genius to know that going on national (and international) television with messages (such as Lemon's) might have more impact if spoken directly to perpetrators of their perceived ills within the black community.  Lemon's audience is not predominately black and he and his managers know that as fact.

The questions remain, what was the point? What was the point of connecting with Fox New's Bill O'Reilly? What was the point of Lemon's delivering such a shallow message to an audience that will not share his sentiments with perpetrators of sagging pants? I will wager not one of Lemon's predominately white audience will counsel anyone in the black community on use of the "N" word.

Lemon would have been much better off dealing with false mantra related to "black on black" crime.