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Showing posts with label Declaration of Independence. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Declaration of Independence. Show all posts

Sunday, April 21, 2013

The "Founding Fathers", The Pauls, The US Constitution



Eric Smith has a page on the TPI

We are posting this here for a few days prior to posting on "Eric Smith' Comments and Screed" Page.  I must address the phraseology "Grounding Fathers' prior to the Eric Smith read.  If you have visited here and read other pieces related the Constitutional Convention,  you know the TPI does not use the phraseology "Founding Fathers". The words are commonly accepted and easily understood, so use of the phrase is a personal aversion when I write. We more often refer to the the Continental Congress and its 79 actual crafters of the US Constitution as "Crafters of the US Constitution". Some prefer to refer to the "Crafters" as "Framers". It should be noted one of the nation's worse presidents prior to ascension while serving as a US Senator is responsible for the words "Founding Fathers". Warren Harding coined the phrase as Keynote Speaker for the 1916 Republican National Convention. 

Why does the developer of the TPI not used the phrase?  No civilized father would sanction human  bondage (the 3/5s persons) nor would such a man practice slavery.  The Constitutional Convention was comprised of 70 state and territory representatives, 55 were active in the Convention, 39 actually signed the US Constitution. 

Sixteen owned slaves,
Twelve presidents were slave owners,
Eight owned human beings while serving as president,

Thus my contempt for the phrase "Founding Fathers". 
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Re- Posted from Eric Smith's Notes

Eric SmithThe Founding Fathers as Frauds or the Great Libertarian Lie. By Eric Smith  

by Eric Smith (Notes) on Sunday, April 21, 2013 at 1:42pm
There is a great lie being told to the America these days.  In fact, this lie is one of the whoppers of all time.  It is a lie being told by Ron Paul and his son Rand.  The lie they're telling us is that the Libertarian Party is for Liberty.  It is not  for  the "Liberty" that the Libertarian Party is speaking of is the "Liberty" of White Supremacy; it is the "freedom" of a Master Race to do with all other races & peoples as it see's fit; their individual freedoms be damned.

The Libertarians say they want to return America to the days  immediately following the  American Revolution; to have our national Constitution interpreted as our Founding Fathers interpreted it.  I've got news for you, when it comes to Liberty, our Founding Fathers were frauds.  They didn't believe in freedom so much as wanting to be  free of being oppressed by the British government.  They objected to being treated by King George III the same way they treated everyone else who was not white, Protestant, or male.

Our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, came about because the white males in the American colonies wanted freedom for themselves and only for themselves.  If it were otherwise then the words "All men are created equal" would have read "All people are created equal" instead.  If creating a Land of Liberty had been our Founding Fathers true intent, then the slaves would have been immediately emancipated and all the former slaves and women of voting age would have been given the right to vote.

If our Founding Fathers had not been frauds; if they had been what they said they were, then subsequent Amendments to our Constitution freeing the slaves and making the elective franchise universal for all people regardless of race or gender would not have been necessary for they would have been included in our original Bill of Rights.  If the Founding Fathers had not been frauds and been what they said they were then the United States would never have needed to fight a Civil War.  There would never have been a need for a Woman's Suffrage Movement or a Civil Rights Movement.

Why, because these issues would have been settled when this nation was originally founded.  They would have been settled if our Founding Fathers had not been frauds.  They would have been settled if, in the words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the night of April 3rd, 1968 America had been what "it says it is on paper."  We can say we are for anything but our words  mean nothing if our rhetoric is not equal to our reality.

If you are for Liberty then you are going to do whatever is necessary to ensure that everyone is free; even if it means denying the freedom of some to deny freedom to others for the only ones who are unworthy to be free are those who feel that others are not as worthy of being as free as they are.

The Pauls and the Libertarians argue that they are for Liberty and that they believe that people should have the right to deny those very Liberties they say they are in favor of to others because of their race, their gender, their religion, and their sexual orientation.  How else can we take their argument that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an overreach of Federal authority and that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was a "racial entitlement" other than proof positive that Ron & Rand Paul and the Libertarian Party are the very same thing those Founding Fathers of ours they so revere were; frauds?

Don't repeat this nonsense that our Founding Fathers were merely acting in the spirit of their times.  The full humanity of people of color and women was just as "self evident" in their time as it is in ours.  They, like the Libertarians of today, simply chose to ignore that reality because that reality did not jibe with their feelings of racial and gender superiority.  If these people really believed in Liberty; if they really felt that women and people of color were not their inferiors, would they have denied them their human rights?  No, because they would have rightly seen these denials as a direct contradiction of that Liberty  they said they were for.

Constructing our Constitution in such a manner so as to make it possible that these rights they were denying to people of color and women could be given to them at some future time through Constitutional Amendments was a tacit admission by our Founding Fathers that they were frauds; that they were wrong not to include  these  universal rights in our nation's founding documents.  What's more they were smart enough to realize that if they did not include in our founding documents mechanisms to give those rights they were then denying to people of color and women, that everyone around the world would see right through their lies and recognize the fraud they were perpetrating upon the globe.

The many freedoms our nation now enjoys came about not because of our Founding Fathers but in spite of them.  They came about because if they had not made it possible for future  generations of  America's  oppressed to be made free then they themselves would never have been freed from the yoke of British tyranny; the French would never have fought on our side and the American Revolution would have been crushed before it even really began.  The Founding Fathers proclaimed Liberty for All but they did so with the fingers of one hand crossed behind their backs because they knew that that was the only way they could secure Liberty for themselves.

The Founding Fathers were frauds, period.  They lied to the world and the world fell for it.  We just lucked out in that Dr. King was right when he said "truth crushed to Earth shall rise again for no lie can live forever", that lie of course being that Liberty can exist where some some people are more free than others.  It can't, no matter what Ron & Rand Paul and their Libertarian Liars would have us believe.  There is simply  no such thing as Freedom for the Few.  Freedom can only Freedom can only exist where there is Freedom for All.  It is as simple as that.

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Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Republicans and Paul Ryan Reach For The Wind! And have nothing to grab but another lie.

        

Well, Paul Ryan, Exactly what "founding documents" are you referencing?

The Slate Dot Com is reporting on Paul Ryan (of all people) complaining about the absence of the word God in the DNC Convention Platform.

Paul Ryan wants the Obama administration to explain why the Democratic platform doesn't include the word "God" in it.
Ryan political drivel.
"I think it’s rather peculiar," the GOP vice presidential hopeful said during a Fox News appearance on Wednesday morning (via Politico). "It’s not in keeping with our founding documents, our founding vision. I’d guess you’d have to ask the Obama administration why they purged all this language from their platform. There sure is a lot of mention of government. I guess I would just put the onus and the burden on them to explain why they did all this, these purges of God."

Here is the Fox News version. I will add Fox News airs a version with Gretchen Carlson sitting on camera with enough leg and thigh showing to make some porn queens jealous.



Now, check it out.....The DNC Platform may very well not include the word "God". I personally do not feel it should include the word "God". While Fox News drags-out the most dishonest potential Vice Presidential candidate since Spiro T. Agnew, it is worth noting specific verbiage from the DNC Platform.
"Faith has always been a central part of the American story." 
DNC Platform RNC Platform Slate also reports the GOP has the word God in their Platform twelve (12) times. One has to wonder if the over-the-top number of entries (specifically the word GOD) is not mere window-dressing for their base constituency. The GOP references God twelve times, but it has shown need for a healthy doses of 'Bible Study" and church attendance.   * "Kiss my A_ _. Campaign adviser while visiting a Polish War Dead Cemetery.   * Go _uck yourself". Republican Member of Congress (or GOP State Rep) * Campaign Lies (Not embellishment or hyperbole, bold-faced lies). Every media outlet has spoken or written about GOP convention lies. Even Fox News writers and pundits have spoken a bout the extent of Paul Ryan's outright and blatant lies.   * Jingoist anti-Iran and Russia jingoist language from Mitt Romney towards the end of his acceptance speech.  Do these acts denote a party of "godliness?"  Does the mere mention of "GOD" in the GOP Platform (12 times) denote a party truly devoted to 'godliness' or could the 12 entries be strategic 'dog-whistles and opportunity for campaign rhetoric. Let's face it Ryan mentioned the 'dog-whistle' within hours of the end of the first day of the DNC Convention. As to Ryan's specific claim.
Declaration of Independence (actual beginning text)
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. (Read more linked in title)
Unable to locate any use of the word "God".
Things that are not mentioned in the US Constitution
God
It has often been seen on the Internet that to find God in the Constitution, all one has to do is read it, and see how often the Framers used the words "God," or "Creator," "Jesus," or "Lord." Except for one notable instance, however, none of these words ever appears in the Constitution, neither the original nor in any of the Amendments. The notable exception is found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The use of the word "Lord" here is not a religious reference, however. This was a common way of expressing the date, in both religious and secular contexts. This lack of any these words does not mean that the Framers were not spiritual people, any more than the use of the word Lord means that they were. What this lack of these words is expositive of is not a love for or disdain for religion, but the feeling that the new government should not involve itself in matters of religion. In fact, the original Constitution bars any religious test to hold any federal office in the United States. For more information, see the Religion Topic Page.
Thanks to James MacDonald for the idea.
Paul Ryan's specific statement from above and via Fox News.
"It’s  (the omission of 'God') not in keeping with our founding documents, our founding vision. "
After a few minutes of searching around, I located no reference to "GOD" in any of the more notable founding documents.  Does Paul Ryan have access to information hidden from the prying eyes of the Internet?  While I am not a fully competent fact-checker, it is easy to perform a basic search for the context of Ryan's statement.  Apparently, there is no veracity to his statement, and as usual he has no real premise from which he speaks. 
(Disclaimer: If any readers locates a reference to "God' in any "founding documents" . I would appreciate a comment to that effect with a reference point, I will gladly retract this screed after posting my error for a few days. We are not about 'gotcha's at The Progressive Influence (TPI), we are about honesty, veracity, and what is best for America from a progressive perspective.
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